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  The (Shunned) Woman at the Well

  by Sea Breeze in

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  i always found the account of the "woman at the well" to be particulary interesting.

  this unknown shunned woman of ill-repute was specifically sought out and chosen by jesus.

  why?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el7dzonv3iy&ab_channel=michaelpapale.

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  Abraham married his sister

  Half sister or more probably his neice.

  A master could have sex with his slaves and captured women —all morally acceptable.

  If he married them, or cared for them for life as a concubine.

  Neither was the case with this Samaritan woman. She was simply living with a man not her husband after 5 failed marriages which put her at the bottom for most any ANE society.... as it would even today in most instances.
  
  I am quite sure that she did not start out in life with the goal to be married five times and then shack up with a man. For whatever reason, this is how she ended up. And, it is to this woman that Jesus first openly revealed who he was. She was lost, in many ways. And, Jesus found her.
  
  No where in the NT bible are people told they must first clean up their life, study a WT publication, answer nearly 100 questions and be active in field service in order to trust Jesus and be saved. Belief is the only requirement.
  
  But, works are important, just not for your salvation. Works are simply outward indications of internal belief. In the bible, works folllow belief not the other way around. JW's and their converts are more comparable to the Pharisees and their folllowers than to Jesus' followers who simply believed him.
  
  

  I can't stop the tears that flow every time I see this woman liberated by Christ. Because you see, that was me

  Me too VH.
  
  
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  The (Shunned) Woman at the Well

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i always found the account of the "woman at the well" to be particulary interesting.

  this unknown shunned woman of ill-repute was specifically sought out and chosen by jesus.

  why?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el7dzonv3iy&ab_channel=michaelpapale.

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  Also, JC saw in her virtues that qualified her for repentance and salvation.

  Fisherman,

  It is hard to understand how you could conclude this. The point of the account is that this woman didn't have any virtues. She didn't qualify for anything really. She was at the bottom of society and yet, not only did Jesus seek her out, he openly identified himself as the long foretold Messiah for the first to this woman. An unbelievable honor.

  "Many first shall be last, and the last first."
  
  It's called grace.
  
  
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  The (Shunned) Woman at the Well

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i always found the account of the "woman at the well" to be particulary interesting.

  this unknown shunned woman of ill-repute was specifically sought out and chosen by jesus.

  why?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el7dzonv3iy&ab_channel=michaelpapale.

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  Sea Breeze

  A woman who had five husbands and living with a man who is not her husband would be looked upon by many as "problematic" to say the least.... even in most communities today, let alone a small community in the ancient near east.

  She was alone at the well, in the heat of the day.... after the other women had already been there and got their chatting done. People do this in offices today. It's called water cooler chat. Not much has changed.

  This historical account proves that God seeks out such people, in spite of their moral bankrupcy. Folks like this woman are in a unique position to experience the height of god's pure love, as seen from far below.

  It is a very tender portrait of God's character.

  Maybe the RULES say to shun them, but Jesus showed us there would be some reasons to "break" the rules.

  I agree DOC. This is totally in line with one of Jesus' teaching about another particular law:

  And he said unto them, "The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath" - Jesus

  Of course, the concept of God's Grace is far from JW thinking and practice.... thank God.
  
  
  
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  The (Shunned) Woman at the Well

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i always found the account of the "woman at the well" to be particulary interesting.

  this unknown shunned woman of ill-repute was specifically sought out and chosen by jesus.

  why?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el7dzonv3iy&ab_channel=michaelpapale.

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  I always found the account of the "Woman at the Well" to be particulary interesting. This unknown shunned woman of ill-repute was specifically sought out and chosen by Jesus. Why?
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el7dzoNV3IY&ab_channel=MichaelPapale
  
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  New convention video: Do you see what I see?

  by neat blue dog in

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  I see a man contemplating following Jesus alone after disobediently following men for half his life.
  
  Will he take the plunge?
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  Happy (Substitution) Resurrection Sunday !

  by Sea Breeze in

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  why is the substitution atonement hidden under piles of nonsense in wt literature?

  the bottom line is that those who join the the wt as adults, found a religion that agrees with their personality and nature.

  yes, they will say jesus makes it possible, but each jw gets to individually take credit for their own salvation.

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  The WT governing body members claim to have the heavenly hope, to be anointed ones, to be in the new covenant, and to have Christ as their mediator. According to scripture, are they thus saved?

  
  

  I don't think so for many reasons. But, this reason has to be one of the top:

  
  "But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed." Gal. 1: 8-9

  The GB preaches a two-tier salvation - one with the new covenant and one without. This is a different gospel than what the apostles preached.
  
  But woe unto you...for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in. - Jesus
  
  
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  Happy (Substitution) Resurrection Sunday !

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
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  why is the substitution atonement hidden under piles of nonsense in wt literature?

  the bottom line is that those who join the the wt as adults, found a religion that agrees with their personality and nature.

  yes, they will say jesus makes it possible, but each jw gets to individually take credit for their own salvation.

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  Why is the Substitution Atonement hidden under piles of nonsense in WT literature? The bottom line is that those who join the the WT as adults, found a religion that agrees with their personality and nature.
  
  Yes, they will say Jesus makes it possible, but each JW gets to individually take credit for their own salvation. They are that good in their own mind.

  And, if you don't get it just right, you get to be resurrected and get a "do over". Nevermind that

  scriptures says :
  
  1."by the works of the law shall no man be justified"

  2. "do not put your trust in mere men"

  3. There is no such thing as new light, like the two-tier salvation that WT promotes. Christian doctrine was fixed when the last apostle died. - Read Gal. 1: 8-9

  4. "it is appointed unto man once to die and then judgement" - Hebrews 9: 27
  
  The simple good news is that Jesus took the punisment due YOU and me (not Adam like the WT says).

  Is. 53 says: But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
  
  Here's the legal exchange in NT scripture:

  For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. 2 Cor. 5: 21
  

  Foreshadowed by:
  

  "And Aaron shall lay both his hands on the head of the live goat, and confess over it all the iniquities of the people of Israel, and all their transgressions, all their sins. And he shall put them (your sins) on the head of the goat and send it away into the wilderness (where he will surely be torn to pieces by wild anaimals) - Lev. 16

  The bottom line is that Jesus wants' to be your scapegoat (your Substitute) just like pictured in the OT.... if you let him into your heart. Today is a good day to get saved.

  My post-JW position is: If you don't want to accept Christianity, fine. At least know what it is that you are rejecting. The WT seeks to take away this choice through deception. But Jesus, want's you to get off scott-free for every wrong thing you have ever done, no elders meetings, no field circus, no works at all.

  
  
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  If Jesus' Resurrection Were a Hoax....

  by Sea Breeze in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23unllbos3w .

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  I thought it was one of the best from Babylon Bee.
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  If Jesus' Resurrection Were a Hoax....

  by Sea Breeze in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23unllbos3w .

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23UNLLbOS3w
  
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  Organization is God

  by Longlivetherenegades in

  1. watchtower
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  the belief was jehovah/god is not the organisation when you are a member of the organisation .

  when you disassociate or leave the organisation, the belief becomes jehovah/god is the organisation.

  someone somewhere will tell you return to jehovah or hand you a publication that has the title return to jehovah.. .

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  Good points. It is fascinating how little by little the organization becomes God to JW's.